Please allow me to reprint the official statement regarding the AnL incident. All decisions were based upon the evidence and after careful study of the facts of the case AND hearing both sides of the issue, both the camps of the community and AnL were heard. Every claim beyond the evidence is mere hearsay.
Now, I think it would be unfair to call us “bobo” or “walang utak”. Call it what you will. The decision has been made and it will STAND. It is really sad to note that the problem with the pRO community is that is NEVER satisfied with whatever decision we or the GMs come up with.
I dare you to name something that made EVERYONE happy. See? None. Nada. Nil. Give a hand and they would want your arm.
This kind of attitude often stresses the pRO team. But we take it all BECAUSE WE WANT TO SERVE YOU. Also, me and the others have always said that pRO is a game but it is also a business. Our job is to make “reasonable profit”. If you think that we are forcing you to cough up money, NOTHING HERE IS COMPULSARY. It’s YOUR choice. The fact is, we LOVE the game and everyone in the team is passionate about it. Our job is to serve you as our customers. But we are also here as upholders of the law and the game policies when it comes to violations and tournaments.
Sorry for being carried away. But I think that we have made ourselves clear. I’m sure I’ll still get comments here like the old one. That’s part of the job, I guess.
OFFICIAL STATEMENT
Citizens of Midgard and to all participants of RPC 2007,
After a thorough review and investigation of the facts and merits of the case, the RPC 2007 tournament committee has come up with the following decision.
But allow us first to state the facts of the case.
- Sometime early September, we have monitored discussions on the forums and from players about a supposed cheat exploit by the Armed N Loaded guild of Baldur. Due to bug, they can do a double “Emergency Call”, something which greatly gives them an undue advantage from other participants of the RPC 2007 Agit Lords series.
- We have received formal complaints from other guilds and leaders in Baldur and we have also received screenshots dated September 4, 2007.
- After investigation of the case, we even had a dialogue with representatives of AnL. They came to our head office for discussions and so that we can hear their side. The tournament committee requested a formal letter for them to defend themselves and explain why we should not sanction their Agit Lords points (they are currently 4th in Baldur). They submitted this letter to us September 14, 2007 (today).
- AnL of Baldur informed us that they are NOT officially affiliated with AnL of Tyr.
- Here are the points of contention
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- That they submitted a ticket (ticket number 8AC9E dated 25/05/07 01:25 AM) supposedly reporting a guild bug – Although they indeed submitted a ticket, the request was for a change name (which we did) but they deliberately WITHELD INFORMATION about the double EC exploit.
- That ticket even asked them to submit information. They did not do this hence the delays in the processing of that fix.
As such, the official tournament committee has decided the following ruling WITH FINALITY:
- That ALL AGIT POINTS of Armed n Loaded for Baldur (under Jamscogan) starting September 4 (the date of the screenshot) will be NULLIFIED.
- Their Guildmaster, jamscogan_LO00 will be banned for the following offense:
“Attempting to deceive any Levelup Personnel “ As per our game policy http://ragnarok.levelupgames.ph/penalties.php
3. Character names m!m!z, Mimiz22_LO00 and jamscogan will also be banned for exploiting the bugs.
As such AnL will have no access to their guild’s EC in tomorrow’s final Agit Lord siege.
This is decision is final and for implementation. The pRO GMs/Vanguards will be closely monitoring the last Agit Lord siege in Baldur tomorrow.
Please note that we have heard all sides of the issue, all parties concerned and investigated all facts, documents, evidence and points of this case. We believe that the decision shall be fair to all concerned.
You may discuss this in the ragnaboards but no whining, complaints or flaming will change anything. Kindly keep your discussions healthy and respect one another. We have alerted all our RB moderators to monitor the boards and gave them the green light to ban and sanction offenders without prejudice.
Best of luck to all participants of RPC 2007.
Thank you.
Always your servants,
THE RPC 2007 TOURNAMENT COMMITTEE
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paInvestigate din other guilds.. from Tyr and Freya.. hindi lang kc ANL Baldur nakakagawa nan..
Nice to know you’ve REALLY done something about it. Deserves them right!
I understand that players (myself included) expects so much from LU! (This Dual EC issue is but one of all our numerous and endless complaints) Still, thanks for trying your best.
@joel
Hindi pwedeng mag-investigate nalang! LOL.
Kelangan me valid claim at valid proof. Yung sa AnL nga alam ko yan dati, nagsisiege ako sa kanila, hindi ko naman masumbong dahil di ko mahuli. Hehe.
Buti nalang me nang spy sa kanila nakakuha ng SS.
Yang sa Tyr at Freya, me SS ba? Or video?
=)) Hanep talaga sa Baldupe.. este Baldur. Haha.
Still no update regarding the “ACCIDENTAL” GTB Activation?
meron kso konti.. novice pa nga ginagamit nila pangEC e!
prng unfair sa ANL BALDUR xla lang naparusahan e mdmi din naman sa tyr and freya nakakagawa nan.. tsktsk..
@Anna sa tingin mo ba papainvestigate ko xla dhil wala lang? feel mo naman BALDUR lang kaya makagawa ng double EC.. lol
So ganun na lang yun ban sila? Pag Level Up pumapalpak sa rollback, extended maintenance, at sangkatutak na excuses katapat pero pag players ban na? Eh panu ba nila na exploit bug na yan? hinde ba sa kapalpakan niyo? Hinde naman lilitaw bug na yan kung inaayus niyo serbisyo niyo eh. No wonder kakapiranggot na lang population ng Ragnarok. Napaka harsh ng ginawa niyo sa kanila eh kayo naman nagpabaya bakit nagkakaganyan players.
Kung mali sila shouldn’t you guys in Level Up also investigate your people why things like this occur under their watch?
@ joel
Tama ka siguro. Hindi lang ANL Baldur umabuso sa bug pero as of now, sila lang ang nahuli kasi meron screenshots.
Parang corruption ng presidente ng Pilipinas lang yan. Karamihan nagsasabi corrupt lahat ng presidente dito sa bansa natin pero si Erap lang nahuli kasi merong nagpresenta ng malalakas na ebidensya at mga testigo.
So, is exploit abuse a bannable offense in the EULA? I hope so, for all your sakes, GM T. Make it official if it isn’t. Every other MMORPG EULA has it.
Make no exceptions.
Expected ko talagang DQ na dapat ang AnL sa Agit Lords pero salamat pa rin at kahit papano napenalize sila. Good job LUG! /thanks
e2 lng mssbi ko s inyo LU.BOBO NYO TLGA KAHIT KELAN. PURKET MAY MANOK AT TUTA KAU S BALDUR DUN LNG KAU NKA FOCUS FUCKERS TLGA KAU!!! WLA TLGA KAU SILBE. UNG NAG JOB WELL DONE S LUG POKPOK KA SIGURO!!! JOB WELL DONE KA P NLLMAN. TANG INA WLA NG SILA NGWA MAGNDA EH. UNTI N LNG NGA NAG LALARO NG RAGNA D P NILA MAGWAN NG PARAAN UNG MGA BUGS HAYZ BUBU LNG TLGA MGA PINOY TANGAPIN N NTN YAN. KAYA NGA TAWAG SATIN NG IBANG BANSA AY ALILA DAHIL BUBU TLGA MGA PINOY!!!
NAG BIBINGIHAN KA N NMN BA TRISTAN POLPOL!!! INVISTIGATE M UNG IBANG SERVER DAPAT HINDE PLAYERS ANG MKA DISCOVER NYN DAHIL MAY PROGRAM KAU LAHAT NG NGYYRI S GAMES BUBU M TLGA. NKA DEFFEND KA LNG S PLAYER NG RO HOW SO SAD THAT U ARE TOO WEAK MIND!!! OBSERVE ALL THE BUG AND OTHER PROBLEM TO THE PRO. SINU B UNA NKKA DISCOVER D B PLAYER ANU GINAGWA M PATABAING BABOY KA LNG DYN!!! NAG HHNTAY KA LNG N MAG SSUMBONG N PLAYER SOBRANG BOBO NYO NMN W8TING KAU S PLAYER N REPORT SOBRANG BUBU NYO TLGA BUTI P PRIAVTE SERVER ALAM NILA KAGAD KNG ANU MGGING MALI SA GAMES NILA EH. PARTIDA P UN ISANG PC LNG GUMAGANA KAU TANG INA ISANG BUILDING NI WLANG MAGWA S MGA PROBLEM. MAGPATABA KA N LNG S BAHAY M BUBU M!!! DAPAT KAU NKA UUNA MKA HANAP NG PROBLEM NYN HINDE KAMI MGA PLAYERS BUGOK. 100% KAW MAY KGGWAN NG MGA BUGS AND DUPES S LAHT NG SERVER DAHIL PITIK BULAG GINAGWA M. TANGA INA M MAAWA KA S MGA ANAK M!!! GALING S NAKAW ANG PINAPAKAIN M ULOL NKKHYA MGA K2LAD NYO. MALAMAN KO LNG N ISA S MGA RELATIVES KO TAGA RAGNA PPTAYIN KO KAGAD!!! K2LAD M PAG NAKITA KITA WEAK N BOBO KA!!!!
NKA FOCUS KAU S ANL DAHIL NABSAGN KAU. KAYA GANYN GINAWA NYO S ANL. NTTKOT KAU N MAGKA EC ANG ANL DAHIL MALAMNG WALANG KAKAININ ANG BATA NYO. KNG MALKAS TLGA MGA MANOK NYO SHOW IT TO US!!! AS HOLE N PIGGY!!! MATA M P LNG PRANG SI SHREK NA!!! BWAHAHAHA MALAMNG NAG PAPASOK KA LNG DYN S LUG KAYA ANDYN KA PRETENDING N MARUNONG DEPUNYETA KA!!!!
What time is it? Sira ang WILD CARD VOTING PAGE. Pakiayos ASAP.
What time is it? Its Summertime! its our vacation. What time is it? Party Time! That’s right, say it loud!
aw di kmi makalogin.. gs2 nyo ata iextend ulit ang WildCards nu? by extending Agit Lords?
ay mali.. hindi by extending agit lords.. lol xD
potang ina nyo mga gm anu n nmn ginagawa nyo kabalbalan at cra n nmn pro emergency maintenance n nmn. tapos extended n nmn ang AL naku mukha pinapahabol nyo tlga manok nyo ahh grabe tlga weak nyo!!! mga p0tang ina nyooooooooooooooooooooo
that said, i would like to point out completely iba yun sa gtb activation, walang sabit dito sa inyu e, anu na pla nangyari dun? tapos narin ba sa investigation? wala na ba yun? just forget it? ngayun sira na naman WC 30 min before the game, sira pa login… anu ba na naman 2? investigation na naman? tapos wala na diba???? im sure youll have a great explaination na naman bout this. sana this time someone should take the blame, baka staff na naman may kasalanan sikat ni staff e. sino ngaba dapat responsible sa philippine ragnarok online game as a whole? hmm…
hay..ang galing tlga!!!! da best kayo mga GM…
sana maganda expalnation nyo about sa nangyayari sa mga serer ngyn ha… nang gagagu na kasi kayo eh!!
HAyyyzzz…..KUmana ka n nmn tristan ng kaululan mo….e halata nmng pakana mo lahat yn….e d b kau kau lng nandyn sa opisina bkit nagkakaganyan pa servers nyo…may mga bugs pa
Halata kasi ung pagi2ng vias mo kupal….tang ina mo kc bobo ka e, sana d k n lang naging BM ng LUG,as in BOBONG MANAGER….kaya ka puro extend kc natatalo ung mga alaga mo,,.,,tska kung may bug yn,e d sana hindi lng ANL ang nkagamit nyn,pnaginitan nyo kc ANL kasi tyak na cla ang mkakatalo sa mga manok mo….UNGAS TANG NA MO!!!!!!!!
AMP naman GM….2 points ngayun scoring unfair naman 2 saturdays na wala WOE…sana kong until tuesday na lang AL 2point satuesday diba!!amp!!
geez… what a bunch of whiners, no wonder I left the game early
nagkaktaon nga na may bugs bat kelangan abusuhin?? dpat taung mga player cnasabi din natin sa knila na may nggnap ka kalokohan…. lols
dagdag ko lng.. sna pki investigate restricted of TYR my double EC din cla ehh
dagdag ko lng. pki investigate mga guilds ng TYR dami nag double EC
magkano ba nakukuha nyo at pati rpc ng mga bata sinisindikato nyo? how low can u guys from LUG go?
kano ba price sa rpc? 1 million? sheesh, magkano makukuha nyong parte jan pag makapasok ang manok nyo? all that inside job para sa katiting na barya? get a life mga taga LUG! how pathetic!
pag natatalo lagi cnasabi dinaya/ nagbayad para matalo lng talunin kami
pag nananalo nmn ssbihin nandaya/ nagbayad sa kalaban para manalo
wla ba tayong laro na nagpakita ng sportsmanship? or sadyang isip bata lng kayo?
Ang init d2… Nakakapaso…. Parang mga walang pinag aralan yung ibang mga nagpopost dito! Galit na galit kulang na lng pumatay ng tao!!! Tsk..tsk.. Kawawa nman!
@SL
Just look at our elections. Rare is a candidate that bows his head in defeat. They always claim to have been cheated when the lose in the polls. Same trend seems to apply with RO.ph players
@hayz
Lynch mob effect
haha kaya walang asenso ang pilipinas, mga “kiss my ass” club amf. hanggang kelan kayo hahalik sa pwet ng pro? ginagago na kayo pinagtatanggol nyo pa. HOW STUPID. mga lowlife na nga bumaba pa kayo at hinalikan nyo pa mga pwet. wow. ni hindi nga makasagot ung gm…silence means yes?
Kung gsto nyo mag reklamo hndi kyo pmnta ng NBI ng magkaalaman na…Pa imbistigahan nyo tutal my involve nman na php dito sa online game na to eh. Puro trash talk kyo eh mga wala nman katuturan yang mga pino-post nyo! Ang iinit ng ulo nyo hndi nyo na lng tanggapin ang nangyari.
At Tristan:
Ayusin nyo ksi trabaho nyo tutal kumikita nman kyo smin… Kung wala kmi (mga players) bagsak na LU.
Well, I think since LU! has shown that they can investigate guilds like AnL, they should also look into other guilds. Maybe they can start with the top agitlord and wildcard qualifiers to see if they’re also abusing this bug.
Pwede po ba yun GM Tristan? Can LU! look into the logs of these guilds to see if they have committed 2x ECs and other bug abuses? Just so the pRo community will see that you’re not singling out AnL. Thanks.
Kung ayaw nyo sa LUG pede naman kayong umalis.. inde naman kayo pinipigilan duh!
A typical gamer’s reaction….
good bug – don’t report
bad bug – report/whine/harass
If you guys have SS from other servers who abuses such bug, please feel free to file a ticket. Whining will solve nothing. You’re just letting the world know what a fool you are.
[...] That’s why we had to put our foot down and come up with the ruling on the Armed and Loaded Double EC fiasco. [...]
alam nyo ba mski sa sakray d nila naayus mga CRANG MAPS hinihintay p nilang mag MAINTENANCE bgo nila maayus mga maps
tpos ngaun ggwa p cla ng isa pang SERVER???
taena
IBASURA n nyang LEVELUP
kung mayaman lng ako ggwa ako ng sarili kong corporation NO LOAD pa sa EQUIPZ lngpde n ko mkabawe
BOBO lgn tlga ng mga tga LUG d nila inaayus mga trabaho nla puro cla pasikat eh basura nmn cla
mabuti pa ung E-GAMES mbilis e LUG BASURA
GUYZ!!! ibasura n to syng lng pera ntin d2
ung mga scammers and hackers n nirereport eh wala clang nagagawa………
Kung ggwa p cla ng isa pang SERVER ng RO ung Valkrie
malamang mabibilang ang mga maglalaro dyan dhil magsatos rin
mga equipz at cards kailangan pang bilin futa basura kau LUG
LUG ,,l,, LUG mga gago
ugn ibgn GM ng bebenta ng ZENY pra magkapera
gumagawa ng iba png acc.
mga gag0 kau mga futang ina keu
mawala n sna LUG mga gago!!!