Investigating the “Double EC” exploit in Baldur

This past couple of weeks, a VERY controversial issue in Baldur cropped up.

Apparently, AnL guild of Baldur had a guild bug. Due to this, the can use the guildmaster skill, Emergency Call TWICE because they have 2 guildmasters. Now, this is really UNFAIR for all of those in the RPC 2007 Agit Lords siege scoring since this guild with the so-called bug can technically be in several places at an instant. Sort of a “ping-pong” effect if you asked me.

A lot of flamed, red-hot threads had appeared on the boards and in the unofficial chaos forums too. I have been receiving a lot of text messages, phone calls and even flooded comments here at my site.

I decided to help the RO RPC 2007 judges to investigate this matter. They will be posting an official statement at the website and at the forums any minute now. I don’t want to pre-empt it and place it here since I want the official channels to be the one to announce it first.

I will, however, tell you a few stories and a sorta inside-look into the investigation of the case.

That and more after you click…

Evidence is always important in an investigation. If ever you watch CSI, Gil Grissom tells us that the “evidence cannot lie”. The same is true in this case. Apparently, I wanted to hear both sides of the story first. Gather all the evidence and then me and the team should look at all the details and then decide if they are guilty or not.

Of course, before any case, a formal complaint must be made. The forums do not serve as a formal complaint but we DID get a couple of e-mails formally protesting and complaining about this. I won’t name-drop but they did substantiate their letter with “evidence” in the form of screenshots.

This prompted the GM team to investigate the matter. Lo and behold, once we tested their accounts, they really CAN do the darn cheat… madaya nga.

Now, to be fair, it’s good to hear the side of AnL too. We had a dialogue yesterday with their formal representative. The discussions were good and we heard all their stories and their side. About how they filed a ticket and “informed us about the bug”. Well, once we opened the ticket (the evidence cannot lie), they only asked us to fix certain functions (name change) but NEVER mentioned anything about a double EC bug. This to me and for the pRO team is clearly witholding information.

The RPC head judge then asked them to file a formal letter on why we should not sanction them. Based on this letter, the merits of the case and of course, the EVIDENCE, the RPC 2007 committee came up with a FINAL DECISION regarding the case.

You will find it later at the ragnarok website and the forums. So stay tuned.

Thanks!

PS. I would appreciate it if you do not flame, curse or threaten one another in the comments below. Let’s keep it civilized. Respect each other or else I will be forced to turn the COMMENTS OFF. Thank you in advance.

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  • pak q LUG

    d ko nid pera m bka doblehin ko p bnbgyn sa inyo ng mga bata m!!! umayos kasi kau pak q ka!!! baka kaw p bgyn ko ng 1m at magpakita sakin para mapatay lng kita concern lng ako sa ANL guild dahil hinde nila kasalanan un gago ka pla eh!!!!

  • http://gmtristan.com GM T

    Everything that the pRO team needed to say is in the official statement. Replying and clearing up things here may prove to be futile especially with the attitude of most flame-commenters.

    Please watch your words and be kind to others.

    Thank you.

  • jB!

    anynews abt the GTB ‘bug’? oops 2 words im sorry, its GTB Activation. kung sino ang ‘somebody’?

  • DiKamiBobo

    GM Tristan yaan mo sila maglabas ng galit baka magbigti yang mga yan.

    Gawin mo n lng tong outlet nila. tutal e final nnmn ung decision eh.

    Kung anong sabihin nila dito eh wala n rin kwenta.

    Sila na nag abuse sila pa ang kakapal ng mukha magalit.

    Hindi ibig sabihin na kapag may bug ang isang prog/software eh pwede mo n abusuhin yon.

    Eh napaka bobo talaga.

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  • fuck you cheaters

    lahat ng games may bug. pero kayo you exploited it.

    ang dupers parang counterfeiters, ang hackers parang magnanakaw. kayo exploiters kayo mga tangina niyo.

  • Burke™

    Ayaw talaga akong sagutin ni GM Tristan.

  • Henie

    Nakakatawa yung iba dyan. No matter how much you whine, you’ll never change anything. You’re only showing how immature and uneducated you are. Hohehe…

  • http://www.joelsarmy.tk joel

    ^

    This to me and for the pRO team is clearly witholding information.

    meron.. change ang witholding! withholding yun!

  • Blackwolf

    I don’t know the content of the Gravity or LUG licensing agreements anymore, but in most other MMORPGs, the rule is this: if a player or group of players exploits a bug in the game, then the company has the right to BAN said player/players for as long as they want (ex. permanently).

    If Gravity or LUG has that in the EULA, then there’s no argument.

    If that clause isn’t in the EULA then there is a lesson to be learned here.

  • pak q LUG

    ang dami tlga nauuto d2 ng mg LU kasi mas uneducated kau. tgnn nyo ngyn ko lng nakita ang policy nya yan n pinkita s boards anu yan magic!!! bakit hinde nka lagay yan sa mga books or cd’s. pagnanakw pa. cge nga ikaw b hinde nag loots ng hinde sau. so dapat lahat ng players d2 s ragna ban n lng dahil pag abuse din un d ba. mga gagu pla kau eh. magsama sama kau ng mga GM ng LU n polpol ang utak pretending n magaling sa programming eh sobrang polpol nmn. kng matalino at dpat kau dyn s work n yan bakit humihinge n nmn kau ng ibang program d2 s PRO anu tawag dun kabubuhan d ba. tska tristan wak ka pretending n npakagaling m hayop ka. tang ina tapalan ka lng ng pera tatahimik ka gagu ka!!! subukan m magpakita sa mga players n gingagu nyo tignn ko lng kng maka uwi ka ng buhay gagu ka!!! may nllman kapa policy and rules s ragna kelan nyo pnkta s players yan dapat bagu mag start ang game pnpkta nyo hinde ung puro ka kurakot ang inaatupag nyo mga bubu pla kau. tang ina nyo mag resign n lng kau s LUG kng hinde nyo kaya yan work n yan ganun lng ka dali wak ka pretending akala m kaya m yan work n yan. mga mukha lng tlga kau pera. e2 question ko s inyo ha sagutin m tristan kupal. BAKIT KAU NAG BBENTA NG UNLIMITED CHAR? ANSWER THIS QUESTION ASS HOLE!!!! BASTA B PERA AT ABWAL AUS LNG B UN. GRABE PINAPKITA NYO TLGA N MUKHA KAU PERA!!!! MGA FUCK YOU KAU!!! MUKHA PERA!!!!

  • pak q LUG

    verything that the pRO team needed to say is in the official statement. Replying and clearing up things here may prove to be futile especially with the attitude of most flame-commenters.

    Please watch your words and be kind to others.

    Thank you.

    ALAM B SINASABI M D2? REFLECT TO UR SELF GAGU WAG SAMIN. BE KIND KA P NLLMAN EH MUKHA KA DIN PERA GAGU KA PLA!!!

  • Pierce BE with YOU

    ang masasabi q lang sa mga GM’s.. bakit biglang banned ung mimiz na lalake.. wala manlang announcement.. sana pow kung ibabanned nyo paki sabi naman..

  • http://gulong,com gulong

    @pak q LUG

    ang bobo mo! mag-aral ka muna bago magsalita. in your way of commenting, it seems that you do not have reached even high school. ang bobo mo sobra. put@ ka hangal

  • jaybz

    I believe that a clause about bug abuse is in the LU EULA. It has been there since I started playing at the start of the commercial service of RO.

    @pak q LUG
    The rules are there even before you register an account with LUG. And I believe it is also there before you install the game. Remember that you have to click on a tiny box saying that you agree with the aformentioned rules before you can continue installing the game and/or registering an account. Seems like you didn’t even bother to read it. So stop being so immature.

    Oh and one more thing, I quitted RO long ago.

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