Comments on: D&D 4th Ed and “Insider” http://gmtristan.com/dd-4th-ed-and-insider/ Girls, Games, Gadgets. Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:18:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1.3 By: valfogg http://gmtristan.com/dd-4th-ed-and-insider/#comment-3527 valfogg Mon, 20 Aug 2007 10:45:38 +0000 http://gmtristan.com/dd-4th-ed-and-insider/#comment-3527 id say, stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid its just a money making scheme by wizards. 3.5 aint broke so why fix it. in fact, 3.5 already fixed some of the stuff that was actually broken on 3rd ed. id say,

stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid

its just a money making scheme by wizards. 3.5 aint broke so why fix it. in fact, 3.5 already fixed some of the stuff that was actually broken on 3rd ed.

]]> By: GM T http://gmtristan.com/dd-4th-ed-and-insider/#comment-3530 GM T Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:24:49 +0000 http://gmtristan.com/dd-4th-ed-and-insider/#comment-3530 Can't say that I disagree. Hehe Can’t say that I disagree. Hehe

]]> By: pointyman2000 http://gmtristan.com/dd-4th-ed-and-insider/#comment-3544 pointyman2000 Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:19:06 +0000 http://gmtristan.com/dd-4th-ed-and-insider/#comment-3544 I love the idea. A new streamlined system that takes some of the pain and troubles of GM prep time? Cool. Moneymaking? Yep. These people have to earn money to keep making the games that we play. Stupid? Not entirely. 3.5 Fixed things from 3.0 definitely, but it's been about 5 years since 3.5 came out. Most RPGs tend to bring out new editions after five years or so. Whether it be revisions or entire overhauls. I'm excited to see what it's like. Hopefully it lives up to the hype they're cooking up. If it turns out terrible, then at least you guys who bought 3.5 still have your books to keep playing in and get to revel in schadenfreude... just like the 2nd Edition AD&D guys! I love the idea.

A new streamlined system that takes some of the pain and troubles of GM prep time? Cool.

Moneymaking? Yep. These people have to earn money to keep making the games that we play.

Stupid? Not entirely.

3.5 Fixed things from 3.0 definitely, but it’s been about 5 years since 3.5 came out. Most RPGs tend to bring out new editions after five years or so. Whether it be revisions or entire overhauls.

I’m excited to see what it’s like. Hopefully it lives up to the hype they’re cooking up. If it turns out terrible, then at least you guys who bought 3.5 still have your books to keep playing in and get to revel in schadenfreude… just like the 2nd Edition AD&D guys!

]]> By: Blackwolf http://gmtristan.com/dd-4th-ed-and-insider/#comment-3554 Blackwolf Tue, 21 Aug 2007 01:44:56 +0000 http://gmtristan.com/dd-4th-ed-and-insider/#comment-3554 Nice to see Winter's Twilight still standing. It was fun getting the gang together and play during weekends at Ramagi. Prixie and I still have Alianna and Malcolm's sheets. Admittedly, MMORPGs still don't possess the technology necessary to replicate the freedom of action, creativity and story-developing potential in a tabletop experience. On the other hand, tabletop is a logistical nightmare for people to regularly meet once a week to play. Wives, children, significant others and work take precedence so the convenience of the MMO play-anytime-drop-out-anytime situation is quite appealing. Not to mention access to an international community of thousands of other players. Sadly, convenience wins out over artistic freedom in our case, eh, old friend? Nice to see Winter’s Twilight still standing. It was fun getting the gang together and play during weekends at Ramagi. Prixie and I still have Alianna and Malcolm’s sheets.

Admittedly, MMORPGs still don’t possess the technology necessary to replicate the freedom of action, creativity and story-developing potential in a tabletop experience. On the other hand, tabletop is a logistical nightmare for people to regularly meet once a week to play. Wives, children, significant others and work take precedence so the convenience of the MMO play-anytime-drop-out-anytime situation is quite appealing. Not to mention access to an international community of thousands of other players.

Sadly, convenience wins out over artistic freedom in our case, eh, old friend?

]]> By: levin3d http://gmtristan.com/dd-4th-ed-and-insider/#comment-3556 levin3d Tue, 21 Aug 2007 01:59:03 +0000 http://gmtristan.com/dd-4th-ed-and-insider/#comment-3556 hmmm... aside from the crappy visuals... i haven't played enough D&D to know as much but i don't see what's the difference with MMORPGs. i mean you can play games like Neverwinter Nights2 which uses exactly the same mechanics. Or RPPvP wow servers if you want. or is it the rolling of the dice and the manual computation of the stats and combat number crunching that entices you? (forget high fantasy let's play stockbrokers!) seriously, i don't get it. why simulate a tabletop/pen&paper when you can simulate what the tabletop simulates? hmmm… aside from the crappy visuals…

i haven’t played enough D&D to know as much but i don’t see what’s the difference with MMORPGs. i mean you can play games like Neverwinter Nights2 which uses exactly the same mechanics. Or RPPvP wow servers if you want.
or is it the rolling of the dice and the manual computation of the stats and combat number crunching that entices you? (forget high fantasy let’s play stockbrokers!)

seriously, i don’t get it. why simulate a tabletop/pen&paper when you can simulate what the tabletop simulates?

]]> By: Blackwolf http://gmtristan.com/dd-4th-ed-and-insider/#comment-3557 Blackwolf Tue, 21 Aug 2007 02:37:05 +0000 http://gmtristan.com/dd-4th-ed-and-insider/#comment-3557 Oh lord, I just saw the video of D&D insider. If WotC is going to release this, they will lose truckloads of money. If it takes that much work just to render the characters and the campaign environment, then why not just play an MMORPG? Most people play games to relax and have fun, not to lose their sanity trying to learn AUTOCAD, CGI and 3D modelling. If I needed stuff like that, I'd rather hire someone for it. That video looked suspiciously like work to me. Oh lord, I just saw the video of D&D insider. If WotC is going to release this, they will lose truckloads of money. If it takes that much work just to render the characters and the campaign environment, then why not just play an MMORPG?

Most people play games to relax and have fun, not to lose their sanity trying to learn AUTOCAD, CGI and 3D modelling. If I needed stuff like that, I’d rather hire someone for it. That video looked suspiciously like work to me.

]]> By: Joel http://gmtristan.com/dd-4th-ed-and-insider/#comment-3560 Joel Tue, 21 Aug 2007 06:14:55 +0000 http://gmtristan.com/dd-4th-ed-and-insider/#comment-3560 Personally, it doesn't really matter if they put out a new edition since I'm still using second ed with a sprinkling (or mish-mash) of rules from the various Dungeons and Dragons magazines like piecemeal armor and threshold of pain. Yes, yes, I know ... dinosaur, but these filled all those nights--and days--back in college with good clean fun, without the trashtalk common in MMORPGs. Personally, it doesn’t really matter if they put out a new edition since I’m still using second ed with a sprinkling (or mish-mash) of rules from the various Dungeons and Dragons magazines like piecemeal armor and threshold of pain. Yes, yes, I know … dinosaur, but these filled all those nights–and days–back in college with good clean fun, without the trashtalk common in MMORPGs.

]]> By: GM T http://gmtristan.com/dd-4th-ed-and-insider/#comment-3566 GM T Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:19:50 +0000 http://gmtristan.com/dd-4th-ed-and-insider/#comment-3566 Like what Blackwolf said, MMORPGs and pen-and-paper have vast differences. They share some similarity, but the freedom of imagination, creativity and storytelling shared with a passion among friends cannot equate to any computer-rendered elf or dragon. I think that both should complement each other. MMORPG players can try out traditional role-playing while RPG vets can, like what my friend Blackwolf said, play online games to escape the binding ropes of circumstance. peace! GM T Like what Blackwolf said, MMORPGs and pen-and-paper have vast differences. They share some similarity, but the freedom of imagination, creativity and storytelling shared with a passion among friends cannot equate to any computer-rendered elf or dragon. I think that both should complement each other. MMORPG players can try out traditional role-playing while RPG vets can, like what my friend Blackwolf said, play online games to escape the binding ropes of circumstance.

peace!

GM T

]]> By: joel http://gmtristan.com/dd-4th-ed-and-insider/#comment-3567 joel Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:22:42 +0000 http://gmtristan.com/dd-4th-ed-and-insider/#comment-3567 @GM Tristan doon po sa top commentators dumagdag ung comments ko dhil dun sa joel na nasa taas *omg* wa magkaiba kmi @_@ @GM Tristan
doon po sa top commentators dumagdag ung comments ko dhil dun sa joel na nasa taas *omg* wa magkaiba kmi @_@

]]> By: GM T http://gmtristan.com/dd-4th-ed-and-insider/#comment-3573 GM T Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:02:53 +0000 http://gmtristan.com/dd-4th-ed-and-insider/#comment-3573 Magbago ka ng name. one of you. :) Magbago ka ng name. one of you. :)

]]> By: Joel S. Tan http://gmtristan.com/dd-4th-ed-and-insider/#comment-3582 Joel S. Tan Wed, 22 Aug 2007 06:25:40 +0000 http://gmtristan.com/dd-4th-ed-and-insider/#comment-3582 Off topic: @joel and GM T: I really don't see what the problem is with that. What's in a name? I'll just use my full name. I don't really care about being top commentator on this blog (not that I don't like GM T Online, mind you) or any other blog. Off topic:

@joel and GM T: I really don’t see what the problem is with that. What’s in a name? I’ll just use my full name. I don’t really care about being top commentator on this blog (not that I don’t like GM T Online, mind you) or any other blog.

]]> By: joel http://gmtristan.com/dd-4th-ed-and-insider/#comment-3597 joel Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:20:25 +0000 http://gmtristan.com/dd-4th-ed-and-insider/#comment-3597 @mr.tan yey thx.. i have my personal reasons why i care.. :P @mr.tan yey thx.. i have my personal reasons why i care.. :P

]]> By: Azigen http://gmtristan.com/dd-4th-ed-and-insider/#comment-3697 Azigen Mon, 27 Aug 2007 13:27:17 +0000 http://gmtristan.com/dd-4th-ed-and-insider/#comment-3697 D&D insider looks to be a useful tool, or as they like to refer to it "DvD Extras". I think the idea behind the map tool is that it will remind you of light sources, fog of war, and remove the cartography aspect of the game to a point. They have taken some of the better software ideas and added them to a D&D mechanic(Who here hasn't seen or heard of Hero Machine, Open Rpg or Fantasy Grounds). For people who don't have a group or for logistical reasons D&D insider will probably beat the pants off Play by Forum or Irc games. The character renderer looks ot be based off of the DDO one with a few modifications. Speaking from my personal experience its not that hard. Who doesnt spend a lot of time picking out the right avatar for themselves or a forum? I'm also sure that some basic ones will be included ( and perhaps modifiable so you can change orc weapons etc ) But we wont know more about 4th edition until we see it. Just remember "I grapple the troll!" D&D insider looks to be a useful tool, or as they like to refer to it “DvD Extras”. I think the idea behind the map tool is that it will remind you of light sources, fog of war, and remove the cartography aspect of the game to a point.

They have taken some of the better software ideas and added them to a D&D mechanic(Who here hasn’t seen or heard of Hero Machine, Open Rpg or Fantasy Grounds).

For people who don’t have a group or for logistical reasons D&D insider will probably beat the pants off Play by Forum or Irc games.

The character renderer looks ot be based off of the DDO one with a few modifications. Speaking from my personal experience its not that hard. Who doesnt spend a lot of time picking out the right avatar for themselves or a forum? I’m also sure that some basic ones will be included ( and perhaps modifiable so you can change orc weapons etc )

But we wont know more about 4th edition until we see it.

Just remember “I grapple the troll!”

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