Comments on: Cheating in Online Games

By: Blood

Blood — Sun, 20 May 2007 00:59:12 +0000

I guess it’s natural for humans to cheat. Cheats and hacks are being advertised too like the ads from google that you have.

By: Jestoni

Jestoni — Sun, 20 May 2007 01:45:21 +0000

Yeah! cheating is badddd
It makes you really greed!!!
Thanks GM T for giving some advises >.

By: valfogg(tzanchao)

valfogg(tzanchao) — Sun, 20 May 2007 03:01:18 +0000

unfortunately cheating is already part of filipino culture.

take for instance our political scene. hell, filipinos only go for victory… nothing else.

By: zars

zars — Sun, 20 May 2007 07:57:11 +0000

yah as valfogg said… no wonder the philippines are one of the most corrupt countries… sana naman magbago na!! para guminhawa na buhay natin at wala ng mag overseas para kumita ng marami… hahaha right GM T?? XD

By: Gobi

Gobi — Sun, 20 May 2007 08:29:30 +0000

hahaha. nakakatawa nga kasi totoo na ang philippines corrupted country na. pero back to topic. tama, sobrang bilis ng mga cheats ngayon. I have tried a lot of online games already (mostly international games like SoF, 9d etc..) and makikita mo, ang dami offerings sa towns na selling money, power leveling, eventhough yung game kakarelease pa lang, may makikita ka ng ganun. usually laganap talaga ang bots, which as far as botters do not know, ruin the entire game. nakakita ako, online game, they are selling items sa premium shop for about 5 dollars, people would sell them for 10million in-game, and yet there’s a macro bot character selling 10 million in-game money for just 2 dollars. so compare mo, pag sa bot ka bumili, 2 dollars mo lang mabibili yung item from premium shop, nalugi pa yung company. and yet the company can’t do anything about it.

By: Gobi

Gobi — Sun, 20 May 2007 08:31:19 +0000

and one more thing GM T, there’s a rumor spreading around ROSE na nagroroll back because there are dupes happening in-game. Is it true ba? inaabuse ng mga tao yung nangyayari ngayon sa rose, parang ang sama naman.

By: GM T

GM T — Sun, 20 May 2007 10:30:49 +0000

True. But change has to start from somewhere… and the best place is to have start from OURSElVES. If we don’t patronize cheating programs, then all will be better.

Regarding sa ROSE, I am aware of the problem and we are doing something about it. I can’t discuss the details coz the cheaters will know the countermeasures, k?

By: RonRon

RonRon — Sun, 20 May 2007 13:07:00 +0000

hahaha.. Social Engineering. >_

By: Unnamed

Unnamed — Sun, 20 May 2007 13:47:27 +0000

LOL @ Social Engineering xD

By: GM T

GM T — Sun, 20 May 2007 15:49:25 +0000

Yuf yuf, thats what they call it XD

By: Chrysophylax

Chrysophylax — Mon, 21 May 2007 20:40:09 +0000

as evil as this may sound but.. cheating is bad, only when u’re caught. lol (to the least conscientious that is).. constant vigilance remedies social engineering.

(blog hopping)

By: Aerionn Brightmoon

Aerionn Brightmoon — Tue, 22 May 2007 06:44:52 +0000

Okay, before this becomes an indictment on Filipino culture, let’s just say that cheating happens everywhere. And if you remember GM, the reason why a lot of us decided to leave RO for other games (just ask Blackwolf and the others) is that they couldn’t take all the rampant cheating and all of the other things that made pRO a micrcosm of the Philippines.

I’d like to think though that things have changed.

By: Kabalyero

Kabalyero — Tue, 22 May 2007 07:36:08 +0000

Tingin ko naman ay may kagustuhan talagang makiisa ng community para masugpo o mabawasan man lang ang dami ng mga cheaters sa isang game pero ang talagang ikina-frufrustrate ng marami (tulad ko) ay iyong mabagal na pagprocess ng mga reports at iyong perception na parang wala namang nasususpend sa mga inirereport mo. Para sa isang concerned player na matiyagang nagbabantay at nanghuhuli ay nakaka-frustrate ito at sa huli ay tumitigil na lang sila.

Kaya dapat siguro ay gawing mas mabilis ang pagproseso ng mga reports, ilantad sa publiko ang mga nasuspend o naban at ipaalam sa nagreport ang status ng report nila.

By: Dj_BB

Dj_BB — Tue, 22 May 2007 10:55:07 +0000

Gratification from reward come in two ways - Winning through fair practice and winning through cheating. Both has end capabilities to push the release of endorphins, neuro-biochemical compounds that induces a sense of satisfaction, well-being or bliss at utmost.

As the saying goes (excerpt fr The Fast & The Furious) “a win is a win is a win, doesnt matter whether an inch or a mile”.

However, cheated achievements in some cases do induce guilt, remorse and regret - in most cases only if discovered and/or revealed.

Still it is far better to achieve the WIN in a fair and balanced manner since it produces higher satisfaction, euphoria, bliss, ecstacy and rapture.

^_^

By: -_-Tenchi-_-

-_-Tenchi-_- — Thu, 24 May 2007 16:50:20 +0000

The 1ST reason why people cheat in such an online game (like Ragnarok for instance) is to become famous.. Syempre kapag sikat ka na.. Marami na lalapit sayo at syempre marami ka din magiging kaibigan..

Cheating is like saying that your a noob.. The more we cheat.. The more we become noobs.. Because you didn’t earn it..

Finally, as the saying goes.. Cheaters never win Malakas nga sila dahil sa mga ginagawa nila.. Pero asa lang naman sila dun sa daya na ginawa nila..

By: GM T

GM T — Fri, 25 May 2007 19:56:34 +0000

agree! You guys couldn’t have said it better

By: Fragile

Fragile — Sun, 27 May 2007 13:56:26 +0000

ROFLMAO!,
Greed huh?, that wasn’t the word i was looking for, I was looking for the word ingenuity or clever.

You might ask why?. I’ll tell you, Here’s your program for example and I am a programmer ,Now as a curios programmer I’ll try to crack the limits of your program, Once I cracked that I achieve my goal. but then I create a program that will alter your program. and so this makes me think I’m great, and so I spread what I have done freely. which where the gamers come in and use the program that I created. now there’s your greed.

and about the bugs and exploits… there’s what we call and yeah you know this one too ^^, a beta server
a beta server is used to correct the bugs and exploits before it can be applied on a commercial server. but no one really does that now huh?. bored?

well gameguard is also a 3rd party software :D.

now Disconnecting I will agree with you on that.

but I will not agree on your terms for feeding,
as long as its not RPG(non-casual) feeding is bad for its enemies.
example of a non-casual rpg is ragnarok/rf/mu/wow/khan
casual rpg includes warrock/o2jam/gunbound/pangya/rakion

so you see as long as its a RPG(non-casual)It’s ok…
but hey when you said giving EXP, ITS LIKE PARTY POWER LEVELING IS A CHEAT TOO…….so nice!.

Sharing and Piloting ain’t cheating but I think you got offended for some reason :P, did a female character once had a female owner, then becomes a male owner?.
My friend is poor and she has a sister they share and pay for that 1 account.

as for scamming…its the one that got scammed fault.
why act irresponsible or easy going on an important deal?

number 1.) and number 2.) is solely the creators of the game’s responsibility. But hey levelupgames.ph is not the creator of the game right? so dont blame yourselves about that. the creators must create a top-notch security.

FACTS:
I remembered looking on the headlines saying…. “why fight them, lets just get along” about bots by level-up

as of now…. as long as you pay… you can play ,hell you can also bot too

You cannot distinguish someone who cheats and someone who doesn’t ,well can you?, can you avoid saying “oH this guy is really strong I think he cheated”

Server merge is the sign of Level up losing income

and also I recalled they changed IP but then they changed it BACK!….

as they say.
“Subscription games like Ultima Online and EverQuest have even more at risk because a loss of players is directly linked to a loss of income.”

risk of loss of botters is directly linked to a loss of income.

“At the end of the day, it’s a lot more satisfying to win while following the rules than it is to win using some cheap hack or exploit, so if you’re here looking for ways to cheat in online games, I hope I’ve given you some reasons to reconsider.”
- it’s the job of the GMs

“The good news is that cheating has become significantly more difficult in recent years. Not only have game developers found better ways to secure their products, third-party software has also made large advances in sniffing out and banning cheaters.”

THE BAD NEWS is that even if you’re banning the cheaters, they will always come and come back and still be cheating.

Alas…..

I recall, ragnarok was a great game….not because of IT’s the first online game….no thats not the reason it got so popular…. IT was the EVENTS!
NO events NO reason to Play…..
I remember when Game Masters 1 by 1 died….. and also the the VANGUARDS arises and the EVENT DIES!… great.
the reason for botting arises too

PROBLEM IS you’ll probably delete this……but hey it’s just a plain comment….

By: GM T

GM T — Sun, 27 May 2007 17:18:44 +0000

I’m not deleting it. It’s a free world. You are free to comment.

Thanks

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By: denxiaoping

denxiaoping — Mon, 18 Jun 2007 15:34:18 +0000

yeah, i know a lot of people who earn money in diry ways, likewise when it comes to playing mmorpg. just like what it went in this dance interactive online game(better not to mention this online game), at first the cheat/hack program is just being used by only a single player, and i supposed this guy must have been the one who created it or something like that. why would i know?? yeah of course, because im a witness of that such incerdible hack program, i was inside his room when he started to play the cheat and i was astounded indeed coz i dunno that such hack exist. actually i told myself to get one, coz i knew it will be widespread in no time. so then time and time it spread rapidly that even the gm’s of this online game can do nothing bout it and until even now the hack program still do exist.

am apologizing if readers find my comment too assassinating but im just sharing my expirience with this cheaters and alike and how they contribute to

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 20 Jun 2007 02:11:51 +0000

can you please give me your personal email, something i have to report.

By: GM T

GM T — Wed, 20 Jun 2007 04:44:53 +0000

Hi Annoymous,

Just click HERE

By: fatman

fatman — Wed, 20 Jun 2007 05:12:06 +0000

@Fragile: Some people love to “travel” while playing basketball. It’s fine to “travel” when you’re playing by yourself but rules are a social compact in this social construct we call a game. Without rules or laws, the law of the jungle kicks in and only the strong survive but just because you’re strong doesn’t make you the strongest SOB in the block. Remember what happened to Saddam Hussein.

By: fatman

fatman — Wed, 20 Jun 2007 05:29:09 +0000

I should really be less impulsive. I’d rather be posting in GM T’s CosPlayer babe Post.

By: paulmike

paulmike — Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:03:47 +0000

bigyan mo naman ako cheats ng pokemon silver

By: Angelica

Angelica — Tue, 10 Jul 2007 02:02:30 +0000

Well… I’m thinking… Can you do something about those private servers? I think they’re really cool! I just watched them from YOUTUBE… I know they are illegal, right? But can you blame them? Specially PROSE will say goodbye on August 6…

By: GM T

GM T — Tue, 10 Jul 2007 06:00:24 +0000

Well… just stating a fact - private servers are illegal. They are infringing on the intellectual properties of the game designers and the rights (to do business) by the publishers

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By: essbie

essbie — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 02:48:14 +0000

Private servers are “private” and only for the few, they have pros and cons and such scope and limitations could clearly define their legitimacy hence we cant conclude they all are illegal

By: mark

mark — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 04:57:13 +0000

pwede alisin na ung ing cheats…..

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By: Hacking is Not a Crime

Hacking is Not a Crime — Sun, 17 Feb 2008 07:05:27 +0000

Sa tingin ko naman ok naman ok naman merong cheats sa mga Online games para..aztig.. at para masaya at para merong competition Gamers versus Game Masters…. Sa cheat nag sisi mula ang Hate at nasa hate ang LOVE.. kaya mga faps.. mag cheat na kayo..

By: vhjfuyfyu

vhjfuyfyu — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:52:32 +0000

haha bitch

By: ChuvaNeZz

ChuvaNeZz — Mon, 05 May 2008 10:30:41 +0000

And soon will be RF online will be the test ground of this cheaters and exploiters..Bots and damage modifier are being reported nowadays

By: koolpen

koolpen — Tue, 06 May 2008 17:19:49 +0000

THIS is for the people na nagpapahiya sa lahi natin at comment pa ng comment ng English.HOY!!!
kung pwede kung sisiraan n’yo ang sariling bansa at lahi n’yo kung pewede lang wag na mag English,kasi pinapababa n’yo ang tingin ng dayuhan sa atin.Pakiusap lang kung may pakialam pa kayo sa pagtingin ng ibang lahi pati na sa mga magiging anak n’yo at sa mga susunod pang generation na mga Pinoy.|:PEACE:|

By: clint

clint — Sun, 11 May 2008 16:35:36 +0000

ahhmmmm!….

I think it`s Bad to use a 3rd party Program like Macro
uhmm
kunwari sa (RO) Ragnarok tama nga
it so become Famous
heehhehe
uhmmm!…
May i Ask
Bad bang mag Private Server?

natanung ko lng kc isa ko sa mga players ng
isang Private Server di ko na babanggitin ung name ng isang Private Server
tama po ba Private Servers are illegal?
like GM T`s said?

uhmmm
lets go back!

ako sikat ako sa isang Private Server
almost 500+ ang naglalaro

kasi patas ako di ako gumagamit ng 3rd party program!
kc Weak KA kung tawagin
CHEATERS

CHEATERS nerver Win XD

By: samuel tucker

samuel tucker — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 07:39:02 +0000

i love it

By: vincent

vincent — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 05:47:25 +0000

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